Lets be real.
I think we need to be real here. The only thing that will give us a quick fix for money is the swingers. We need a large increase of cash to change things. Patrick said he was open to it. Its still our home and we are the ones that will oversee everything that goes on here. If parties were held every other week or so we could generate the money and get the exposure we need and we go back to our lives. No one else is doing anything or getting anything started.
I think we should do whatever we need to do to get things going . We can’t turn away business when we are empty. We can’t complain about a plan we don’t like when we don’t want to do anything else. The swingers are used to paying for their space and I hear they are mostly late forties to fifties and professionals and there are a lot of them. We don’t have to have their parties everyday and I think that people are thinking the very worst when they are thinking of them anyway. I don’t think they would want to screw up a good place to be. I think this whole thing about being told you are too close when you are in the pool is rediculous. Things might happen and we might lose aanr but where is aanr when we need people? No one is doing anything for us except for a very few of us.
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There are hundreds of thousands of nudest, and i can only imagin that the percentage of Gays and Swingers has to be like 30%. But thats not the problem, the problem is this we need to let the nudist we are here.
The new owner of the park, when he bought this place had ideas that it was a money maker, but in reallity, he wound up spending lots more money that i think he would have to, on just getting to where it is to day, and thats 1000 % better than it was. To this i say thanks and a good job, now he has brought in a guy, that well so far has been talking a good line, and seems like he wants this place to survive, but this has yet to be seem, as he has only been around for 2 weeks.
As for this swinger and gay thing, why on gods green earth would you, if you love your significant other to be with someone else, just for your sexual pleasure, this i just can’t understand. As for gays, if this is the life style they chose, again fine, i do know a few, and when they keep this to themselves and don’t publicly display this, thats fine, but we don’t need either of these life styles here at Seminole.
With-in the last year we have had 4 to 5 families with small children here, and they commented on how good it was that they could have their children here, be cause they felt good about the way that Seminole was family orientated. THERE IS NO QUICK FIX FOR SEMINOLE. With not being on the web, and naturalists to even know we are here, hell people in Davie don’t even know we are here. We have turned a corner here at Seminole, and we are going in the right direction, but again, with a new General Manager, and if he can get our web site on search engines, with links don’t cost a dime to install, we can do this, but it will take time, and lots of help from us. The drum circles, and events need to be published and not just a week before, they need to be month’s before.
The bottom line is this people, attitude, attitude and attitude. You think negitive it will be, think possitive and that will be, time can be our friend, or our enemy, it’s your choice, and yes this will be the last until i see that the people writing on here, have the right and or correct attitude for me. Tomorrow is another day, and it’s in our hands how that day goes. Be well all.
You know what, first things first, i wasn’t brought up as a nudist, i chose this life style. i loved Seminole since i came here, and the people here have become my family. The Canadian people that come here, have also become my family, and you know what there are swingers in that group, but they respect the camp and the people here that much, that they don’t do it here. This being said the family thing is the only way to go, and as far as gays, swingers and anyone not respecting this, need to move on. Money of no Money, the people here this is there HOME, and they don’t want to be listed or titled in this matter. You all need a reality check. This was supose to be i thought a place for us @ residents to place good things about this place, and it’s turned into a pissing contest about who can piss the most and the furthest, well hope you all are happy. This shit of downing everyone, and saying this, surly will help this place, and my god don’t have a meeting and have good thing happen, not the shit i see here. People say why do you stay in and don’t come out much !!!!!!!!!!!duh, wonder why. You all are so 2 faced, it’s unreal, this may well be the last i put on this thing, hope to god you all are happy, Jim on Volly ball 5.
Hey Jim I moved your post to the comments section of this post for a few reasons: 1. its not appropriate material for a new blog post as its mostly commentary and 2. your comments about gays are completely offensive and I’m sorry you feel such a strong anti-gay sentiment. I’m not about to censor anyone except when you’re directly telling a group of people that they’re not appropriate for a family atmosphere for their sexual orientation, its ignorant and that is way worse press for Seminole than marketing towards the swinger crowd.
Do the views of Kazoo295 represent the culture of Seminole? Because if they do, I don’t think that I’ll be visiting anytime soon. I’ve been searching out a place for the winter, but I don’t think I would want to move to a place that is so… bigoted.
LavUla,
We try to be very accepting of opinions and different beliefs here. Kazoo has his opinions and Seminole has it’s actions. At Seminole we accept people of all lifestyles so long as they are respectful to other people here. We consider ourselves a good example of communal living. While we are a group of people with a wide range of differences and backgrounds we do have our little piece of the world that works for us.
Please consider us for a quick visit or even your Winter home. Sequoia and I would love to show you around.
By the way, all those plants that I planted on the Northeast garden, covering the septic areas and planted in other locations, were donated to us by a gay guy that doesn’t live here, just because he wanted the plants to go to a good home. That’s the attitude we need more of here.
As for this swinger and gay thing, why on gods green earth would you, if you love your significant other to be with someone else, just for your sexual pleasure, this i just can’t understand. As for gays, if this is the life style they chose, again fine, i do know a few, and when they keep this to themselves and don’t publicly display this, thats fine, but we don’t need either of these life styles here at Seminole.
What is wrong with having gay people or swinging couples in the community? The gay couples wouldn’t be having sex in public or affecting any of the residents’ relationships. The swingers wouldn’t be imposing their lifestyle on the community either. Why does what people do in their bedroom affect their ability to live there? I mean, no one would even know if a couple were swingers or not unless they announced it. So how can they be banned from the community?
It’s pretty gross and ridiculous, if you ask me.
With-in the last year we have had 4 to 5 families with small children here, and they commented on how good it was that they could have their children here, be cause they felt good about the way that Seminole was family orientated.
How are gay people and swingers not “family friendly?” Gay people have children. Swingers have children. What isn’t “family friendly” about these people? Do you have to explain to your children about swinging? No. Why would you? Why would the children even be aware that couples were swinging? They wouldn’t. Because it wouldn’t be out in the open and it’s no one’s business but the couple’s.
As for gays not being “family friendly?” WTF is that? By writing gayness off as “not family friendly,” it implies that there is something inherently wrong with being gay. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay. It’s not something inappropriate to discuss in front of children. It’s not a bad thing. It’s not a good thing. It just is. So let’s stop using “family friendliness” as an argument against allowing more openness about homosexuality. And the more that we say that the topic of homosexuality is not okay for kids to be exposed to, the more we reinforce the idea that being gay is a bad thing or an abnormal thing. The gay people aren’t going to run around infecting other people’s kids with gayness. So why aren’t they “family friendly” again? And hey: the gays and the swingers might arrive with children of their own! So… actual families aren’t family friendly?
And I’m willing to bet that the majority of people would find YOUR lifestyle to be “not family friendly” as you prefer to be in the nude. As someone who spends his life fighting for his right to be naked and live in nudity, I find it hypocritical and disgusting that you would be so judgmental. You wish that people would be open-minded enough to accept your lifestyle, but you can’t be open-minded enough to accept others’. It’s sad, really.
I live in Cooper City and just found out that you guys existed. I would love to live in a community like yours. However, I would not want to live somewhere that spread prejudiced and judgmental beliefs or excluded people based on their sexual orientation or what they do in the bedroom. Saying that gay people or swingers are not allowed is the same things as saying black people are unwelcome.
Hey Britni,
You live pretty close to us. You should drop by and let Sequoia and I show you some Seminole hospitality. There’s no entrance or day fee to visit friends and we look forward to meeting you.
Things are changing in a good way here and you’ll see how progessive thinkers most of us are.
As part time residents/guests of Seminole, My wife and I have heard the arguments and seen the frustration on both sides of the discussion. No matter which side we might be on, I can easily see that both sides are wrong and yet right. Both have painted entire groups of naked people with broad strokes of prejudice. Neither really understands the other, even though they happen to share a common life style of nudism. Until one or both sides take a breath of acceptance and tolerance, neither can speak for me. Both sides are deeply concerned about the future of their home and common life style, which means you have two things in common, I suggest this is a good place to start.
I think the Frenchie got a good point there. I’m wonderin why he needs the two sides to agree before they can speak for him unless he wants to be openly accepted as a swinger. I think everybody should just come out of their closet and fess up to what they are and what they want. Then everybody can speak for themselves.
Ya’ll should just put all the cool people on the east side. Thats where they are now anyway.
I guess swingers aren’t welcome there…One of your residents is a swinger, because I read a profile on SDC.com that’s how we heard about your community. I was going to inquire on Tuesday about cost of space, etc. but now it looks like swingers aren’t welcome.
Hey 691,
I’m not sure what transpired since our E mails that led you to believe that. Give some details and I’m sure it will get cleared up quickly. We are getting positive feedback from other lifestyle people after they visit and look forward to showing you our hospitality.
Of course, I have nothing against Naked Rebel or anyone else, coming out of the closet and speaking up for him/her own self interests. On the other hand, if a general consensus is to be reached concerning which life styles are to be represented at Seminole, then someone will have to take on a role of leadership. Typically this leadership would be provided by the owner and or managers of said facility. However it seems for the moment, that the residents of Seminole have been given the rare opportunity of self determination.
I highly recommend that the residents of Seminole come together, resolve their prejudicial issues and execute a profitable plan, or start looking for somewhere else to live.
How long can you expect management to wait before they go with what they know, which by the way is textile trailer parks?
Are the residents of Seminole up to the challenge of change and is there a leader among you who can follow through? I for one, hope so.
I agree with Jim as far as opening the park up to swingers. Seminole is a family oriented park. As ALL of the residents at seminole know I raised Colten(my son) at Seminole from 3 days old to almost 3. He had 2 of his 3 birthday parties at Seminole and learned to swim there as well. If Seminole became a swinger park I would Never take Colten there. It’s just not a family environment. As far as everyone is talking about “gays” I can assure you that gays, lesbians, bisexual, transgenders have always been welcome. It’s not what sex you have an interest in it’s about not getting physical in public. It’s about making EVERYONE feel safe and welcome and not freaked out. Seminole is not about sex, at least it wasn’t when I was there. It’s about family’s coming together. It’s about feeling comfortable in your own skin and accepting yourself and others for what they truly are and not judging them based on the clothes they wear……
If I had a say Seminole would continue to be the family oriented park I know and love : )
~Stacey
hey stacey, I think you’re a little out of touch with some of the resident’s true attitudes towards homosexuality. Since your parents left, I have been witness to many a snarky comment about they’re sexual orientation. Jim says in reference to gays “but we don’t need either of these life styles here at Seminole”. That doesn’t sound exactly gay friendly to me.
Sounds like Mommy needs another reality check.
Hawk don’t you say that seminole does NOT discriminate?!?! then why would you say i need a reality check?? Are you saying seminole DOES discriminate?? I lived at seminole WAY before you even knew of it’s existence and I know what seminole USED to be, and what I wrote is EXACTLY what seminole USED to be, so if it has changed since i left then fine but thats just a shame, seminole used to be great and if it would just stay a FAMILY ORIENTED PARK that welcomes all who are interested in good clean fun the park would become great once again. I’m sorry to hear it is no longer the place i once called my home.
Stacey, dear, this isn’t Hawk, its Sequoia, check your info. Seminole discriminates alot, most of the discrimination comes from the attitude of the residents towards outsiders that are patronizing the business.
Mommy says “I lived at seminole WAY before you even knew of it’s existence” My first trip to a nudist camp was in 1964 (you were born when?) near Orlando. Before I moved to Australia in 1970 we heard of a place that was opening that was way out in the sticks near a town where men still wore guns on their hips. Davie. You lived here…..
The reality check is solely financial. All things pass and those who do not evolve go extinct.
Good to see you are so diligent and going back so far in posts though.